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Janice Airhart's avatar

Interesting discussion. I agree with you about the grievous harm the institutional church has done to people throughout history. I also question religion all the time, which is not the same as faith, though I question my faith, too. I don't believe there is such a being as Satan, that hell exists, or that a God of love would doom those he loves to eternal suffering. I don't even believe God sent Jesus to die for human sins (atonement theory) or the concept of "original sin." I'm not sure what happens after we die. Is there a heaven? Judgment day? I don't know. I do believe that both loving intent and evil (sin) infect human beings if they live long enough, however. My convictions are considered heretical by many Christians, yet I consider myself a Christian. What seems irrefutable is that if a creative and loving God (Holy Spirit, Divine Being, whatever you call her) exists, as I believe she does, it doesn't matter whether you, or I, or anyone else believes in her. As Neil de Grasse Tyson says about science: "It's true whether or not you believe in it." God is not Peter Pan.

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Jeff Robbins's avatar

"My biggest concern when it comes to religion is the fixation on punishment as a means to correct human behavior. Threatening people that they will burn for all eternity is not an effective means of motivation. Neither is threatening to hit them with stones." - Agreed, but.

My biggest concern is and has always been teachings based upon a book that has been translated many times, by many groups or scholars, and for many purposes. Most scholars believe that the New Testament was written within the first 100 years after the death of Christ. That's plenty of myth-making time.

The Bible is not the literal truth. It's story-telling. It's fairy tales. Yes, meant to educate. But also meant to control.

Stories are meant to evolve. Our societies may face similar problems but our environments are unique to our times. A stagnant story is not useful. A stagnant story is used to manipulate and control. As you say,

"The oversimplification of binary thinking that separates concepts into universally “bad” or universally “good” does not equip us to manage the complexities of our multifaceted world."

This oversimplification you speak of starts with teaching metaphorical truths as literal truths. Literal truths are not meant to be challenged. Metaphorical truths are intended to be discussed.

And in our discussions lies our salvation.

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