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Charles Bastille's avatar

"in case we should ever find ourselves in that scenario..."

to...

"She Won. They Didn't Just Change the Machines. They Rewired the Election."

I see what you did there.

I restacked that article the other day, too. The first time I saw something related to Starlink I dismissed it as a BlueAnon conspiracy theory. This one, though, has all the major players I've been writing about for, literally (yes, literally), years: Barre Seid, The Federalist Society, Palantir, Peter Thiel. Especially Palantir (which is also Peter Thiel).

I was a software engineer for 20 years before I started ranting and raving here and on Medium about these goons. Palantir scared the snot out of me as soon as Thiel launched it.

I worked for PayPal as a lead UI component engineer - Thiel was one of the founders there, along with Muskovite. So I've been paying attention to both of them for years.

This is serious stuff.

Your question is probably not hypothetical.

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Susan Sage's avatar

Absolutely! But he would never do so willingly, right?

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Walter Rhein's avatar

I just want people talking about it

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

When it is discovered how Shitler and Elmo cooked the books of election results and that it was 💯 percent illegal, the Republicons will still fight it with all of the strength they can muster. They won’t fight to protect our democracy, but wait until someone cooks their golden goose.

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Jo Burns's avatar

My hypothetical vegan election night. I became leery when EM jumped in at the 11th hour and poured 300M into the election and his expertiseat hacking computer systems. Up until then, most all polls had her winning. She ran an excellent campaign and had a great enthusiasm riding behind her. Then up jumped the devil on November 5, literally. He won!?! I think not. When he swept ALL 7 swing states? Yeah, no!

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David Perlmutter's avatar

Nixon resigned because he was facing a fight he knew he couldn't win. Trump will never admit he can't win a fight and would never do it.

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Wendy's avatar

I have been having these same hypothetical ponderings myself. I keep them all inside because after the 2020 election lie becoming baked into the mainstream fact or folly cake (depending on your residence on Earth 1 or Earth 2) because I get looked at like one of the 2020 election conspiracy theorists if I say anything. It's nice when I come across others who have this same question - what would happen if? I, for one, think we will be faced with just this question and the single biggest factor in why I am focusing on my health, joy, and resistance. I will not give those up to the orange shit weasel and the cult, which one day could be a good band name. My PhD in self care is proving worth every lesson I've learned.

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Walter Rhein's avatar

As long as we frame it this way, there should be no objection. I’m just asking questions :)

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Brent Abrahamson's avatar

I suppose there’s no hope that our present Hitler-admiring fucking fascist will resign the same way his hero did.

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AussieRee's avatar

Excellent essay and question. I’ve guessed from the get go it was rigged, with Elon’s computer ‘wizardry’ help.

I read the attached article the other day and started speculating too.

What I think may happen is civil war. MAGA won’t accept or care it was rigged.

The republicans won’t go willingly, and as far as the demented dictator, he will say it’s a conspiracy, and that crooked Joe Biden and his criminal family made it up, because, well, of course… and he will call on his soulless acolytes to rise up and slaughter the evil left loonies.

That’s my guess.

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Cathy Merrigan's avatar

The demented dictator will never serve his day in court for this - by the time the wheels of justice make it to him, he'll be declared unfit to stand trial. We'll be left with his natterings about nothing, while he sways to the music only he can hear.

However, I can hope that all of the other players are tried and convicted while they are still cognizant enough to be imprisoned for their crimes.

I can also hope that reform comes about for term limits, ending corporations being treated as people, getting dark money out of the pac donations, and in addition to minimum age requirements, there should be maximum age requirements for running for election (for any office). My home town elected its first mayor when I was in high school; he just won reelection for the 9th! time in November. He celebrated his 88th birthday in the past month.

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Margot Potter's avatar

That is the 290 million dollar question. (According to the most recent filings.) What do we do when the truth comes to light?

It is clearer with each passing day, but what does it mean for the future? How to we unf*ck it?

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Teri Gelini's avatar

There is no chance the majority of republicans will do anything as they fear loosing their MAGA support. But as things go south and the MAGA really begin to feel the pain of the authoritarian and start to loose their income and homes and belongings they will maybe change their thinking the he is god. The democrats have to start growing a spine and fins a way to connect with the independents and the republicans that are on the fence these days. It is a hard task and it is going to take time. I agree that the muskrat had a lot to do with altering the election after having read the report someone put out . We must never give up as Joyce Vance states

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Suzy Saulnier's avatar

Without question.

But what makes you think he is going to willingly do this?

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Walter Rhein's avatar

I just want people talking about it

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Suzy Saulnier's avatar

Thank you,

More people should be talking about it,

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Sally's avatar

This is exactly why I follow you. You’re asking the questions most sensate people ask, but the media, the legal pundits, the Congress critters, the governors, all those who should be dropping everything to flag and fix this, don’t and won’t ask. And the Supreme Court? They say, “Hey! What’s that over there???” They give immunity to a convicted felon who lies constantly and defrauds and grifts daily bc they fear not doing so would enable his detractors to hobble his presidency with investigations and lawsuits (which would ultimately come to them, and if unfounded, they could quickly dispatch.) They give corporations unlimited power to influence elections bc “Corporations are people, right?” They give the convicted rapist felon the right to deport legal immigrants and birthright citizens while calling them “criminals, the worst of the worst,” because, apparently, unlike corporations they aren’t people.

NO ONE in positions of power or with a national audience bats an eye at the obvious problems here, and the urgent need to fix them to strengthen Democracy, but you do. Keep it coming. Blast it from the rooftops. Thank you.

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WTH Is Going On?! Chris Berrie's avatar

If a President rigged an election, he should be prosecuted!

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Suzanne Whitaker's avatar

…all hypothetical, of course. ;) …been wondering a lot of the same. It’ll come out… eventually.

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SLMontgo's avatar

He won't resign because he is incapable of admitting he cheated, so he would have to be arrested and perp-walked out of wherever he happened to be holed up, such as Mar-a-Lardo.

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Ballard Graham's avatar

Absolutely! And he or she should be prosecuted as well for “Election Interference”! Exposing all of their despicable deeds!

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